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		<title><![CDATA[What will be the Heat's starting lineup?]]></title>
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		<description><![CDATA[PG - Wade<br />
SG - Miller<br />
SF - Lebron<br />
PF - Bosh<br />
C - Ilgauskas<br />
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You cant put Wade at PG, thats just cheesing.  <img src='http://www.otrbasketball.com/forums/public/style_emoticons/default/angry.gif' class='bbc_emoticon' alt=':angry:' /> <br />
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Will they use this instead?<br />
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PG - Chalmers<br />
SG - Wade<br />
SF - Lebron<br />
PF - Bosh<br />
C - Ilgauskas<br />
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That means Miller is the 6th man, idk about that.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 21:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Bosh Claims Decision To Leave Toronto Came Late</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'>Quote</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>After being called a quitter by Raptors general manager Bryan Colangelo, Chris Bosh says he always played hard for Toronto.<br />
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Bosh, who left for the Heat earlier this month, responded to allegations made by Colangelo on Toronto radio station FAN 590 that claimed the All-Star was "checked out" late last season and chose not to play some of the Raptors' final games.<br />
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"I play this game as hard as I can every time I step on the court," Bosh said. "On the back of my jersey it says 'Bosh' ... The Boshes are hard workers. We have a lot of pride in what we do, in our jobs and in life."<br />
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He also claimed his decision to leave Toronto came at the end of a long process and was not something he had committed to before the offseason.<br />
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"Everybody thinks, 'Oh, he was gone as soon as the season was over,' " he said. "It was the hardest decision I ever had to make. As different as another country is, it was still home for me. I had been there for seven years.</div></div><br />
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I don't agree with the notion that he quit on the Raptors post All-Star break (although his play did slip up a bit, but he has always started the season strong and slipped up a bit post All-Star break), but I can't help but laugh at the comment about how leaving Toronto was one that he made after a long process. <br />
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After hearing how Bosh and Henry Thomas had very little contact with Colangelo (assuming what Colangelo said at the beginning of the free agency process was in fact true, which I don't see why it wouldn't be), it sure makes it seem like Bosh had no intention of staying with the team. Even his teammates basically conceded the fact that Bosh was as good as gone once free agency hit, including Jarrett Jack who has had a long term friendship with Bosh dating back to their days at Georgia Tech.<br />
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I have no problems with Bosh leaving and joining up with Wade in Miami because it is a role that he is clearly more suited to, but I find it incredibly hard to believe that he didn't have his mind made up about leaving Toronto for a while now.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 19:44:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Raptors Still Interested In Bobby Brown</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'>Quote</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Cal State Fullerton alumnus Bobby Brown continues to draw interest from the Raptors, who had Brown in summer league and are believed to be the team most likely to sign him for next season.<br />
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Brown not only played well in Las Vegas but has a special bond with a few California-reared Raptors (DeMar DeRozan and Amir Johnson) to enhance his chances. The Raptors, though, still have two point guards on the roster that they’ve unsuccessfully tried to move: Jose Calderon and Marcus Banks.</div></div><br />
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<a href='http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/18672/latest-buzz-shaq-t-mac-more' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>Latest buzz: Shaq, T-Mac, more - TrueHoop Blog - ESPN</a><br />
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I thought he played pretty well for the Raptors during the Summer League and he is talented enough to play in the NBA (as a third string scoring point guard), but unless the Raptors are able to move Calderon and Banks, he would be completely redundant on the roster. <br />
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I like the chemistry that he has with the rest of the Raptors young players and he showed it during the SL. DeRozan and Brown have been playing pick up ball in LA with each other for a while now and Weems and him seemed to play well with each other during the SL too (as well as the connection to Amir Johnson as well). <br />
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When you are filling out the roster with end of the bench players, it only makes sense to get players that have good relations with other members on the team and who wants to be on the team, and Brown does both of these things. <br />
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However, unless the Raptors move Calderon and Banks, there is simply no room on the roster for him considering the fact that they are already over the league maximum of 15 players as it currently stands (I think at least, they might be at exactly 15).]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:38:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Raptors Looking At Earl Watson</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'>Quote</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>4. Earl Watson, Pacers<br />
Potential destinations: Raptors, Heat<br />
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Watson was solid for the Pacers last season and is generating interest around the league.</div></div><br />
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It is an ESPN Insider article ( <a href='http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=TopFreeAgents2010-2' class='bbc_url' title='External link' rel='nofollow external'>NBA free agency: Who's left in 2010 free-agent class? - ESPN</a> ) so I'm not going to post anything more, but if this is true, I'm all for it under the condition that Calderon is moved so that he would actually be able to get some playing time.<br />
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If the Raptors are able to trade Calderon and sign Watson, it basically hands the keys of the team over to Jack and he will become the undisputed point guard of this team for the upcoming season, which is what I want to see happen. Watson would be a very good veteran to add to this team especially considering how they are lacking in veterans to begin with. He would be a solid backup point guard for the Raptors.<br />
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If the Raptors trade Calderon and Banks and bring in Watson and Brown, I would be pretty content with how Colangelo went about addressing the Raptors point guard situation, which was one of his main goals for this offseason.<br />
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With all of this said, I find it hard to believe that he would go to the Raptors over the Heat considering the most he can be offered by both teams would be the minimum.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Joey Graham To Cleveland</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'>Quote</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Joey Graham agrees to a two-year deal with Cavaliers with terms undisclosed, his agent Byron Irvin tells Yahoo! Sports.</div></div><br />
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The Cavs seem to love to pick up ex-Raptors. Last season they signed Anthony Parker and Jamario Moon and now they sign Joey Graham.<br />
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All they need to do is trade for Jason Kapono and they will be set in their quest to re-assemble the Raptors periemter rotation that was widely considered to be the worst in the NBA.<br />
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On a serious note though, I've always liked Graham as he gives it 100% every time he is on the floor, but the guy simply isn't smart enough to ever play a large role in the NBA. He has all of the physical tools you could ask for (and then some), but his Basketball IQ holds him back from ever being anything more than 10 minute per game bench player (obviously on a poor team he will get more minutes though).<br />
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Good for Joey though. I was wondering if he would be able to sign anywhere this offseason, so it is nice to see that he will still be in the NBA next year.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Kevin Love vs OJ Mayo</title>
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Alright, when the Wolves traded Mayo for Love, everyone thought the Wolves got ripped off bad. But now after watching each player for two seasons, what do you guys think?<br />
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I'd rather have Love on the Magic. I think he'd fit beautifully next to Dwight. Good passer, great rebounder, and would allow us to move Rashard back to SF.<br />
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I think Love is the better player right now as well. I think this season, he will establish himself as one of the best rebounders in the league.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 17:20:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Tyreke Evans vs Russell Westbrook</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[2 different questions, let's see the answers.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 12:07:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Predict Western Standings</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<strong class='bbc'>Be sure to add your own predictions!</strong><br />
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Here's mine:<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>1) Los Angeles Lakers</strong> - This shouldn’t be too surprising to anyone.  They are the defending champions after all.   It’s the same team plus an upgrade at point guard with the addition of Steve Blake while retained Derek Fisher, and upgrading the backup wing position with the defensive minded Matt Barnes, and a back up center with veteran Theo Ratliff.  It shouldn’t be too hard to guess that they have a great chance to make it back into the NBA finals once again.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>2) Portland Trailblazers</strong> - Last year, they managed a 50 win record and made the 6th seed in a very tough western conference despite 3 of their 5 starters missing game due to injury at some point during the season including Brandon Roy and Greg Oden, as well as many of their key bench players.  Now that they are healthy, they will surely improve without a doubt, and quite considerably at that.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>3) Dallas Mavericks</strong> - They have some major depth with one of the best benches in the league with Jason Terry as the sixth man, and Shawn Marion as the seventh.  Unlike last season, they will also have a full year of Caron Butler and Brendan Haywood, plus the recent addition of Tyson Chandler.  We should also expect an increased role for the lightning fast Rodrigue Beaubois, who may potentially start next to Jason Kidd.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>4) Denver Nuggets</strong> - Other than the addition of Al Harrington, it is the exact same team as last year.  Though Harrington is a very good player, I feel both the Mavericks and a healthy Blazers team are still better.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>5) Utah Jazz</strong> - They replaced Carlos Boozer with Al Jefferson, and upgraded Wesley Mathews to Raja Bell.  It remains to be seen how well Jefferson will play alongside a dominant PG, and exactly how much improvement there will be, if any at all.  He may ultimately prove to be an upgrade over Boozer, or perhaps there will be chemistry issues.  Or perhaps these moves may prove to have a lateral affect as I still project them to have the same seed as last year.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>6) San Antonio Spurs</strong> - An interesting offseason acquisition in Tiago Splitter from overseas, which should surely improve the frontcourt.  Without any further improvements however, if the team remains healthy, we shouldn’t see much improvement in their record.  Not unless this aging squad finds a way to improve from within.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>7) Oklahoma City Thunder</strong> - Superstar Kevin Durant and upcoming star Russell Westbrook will lead this team back into the playoffs.  However, they’ll need to strengthen the rest of the team if they want to become contenders.  Youth and potential will allow them to improve from within, but that can only go so far.  They may need to find more talent in the future, particularly at PF and C.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>8) Houston Rockets</strong> - There is a lot of hype surrounding the Rockets, but I feel their future is too reliant on a single player’s return.  If Yao’s comeback is unsuccessful, I do not expect much higher than the 8th seed for this team, perhaps even worse if one of the younger teams, like the Kings or the Warriors, winds up building faster than expected.  It is virtually the same team as last year after all, which failed to make the playoffs.  If Yao does return and reach his old form however, I do expect a higher seed. Perhaps the 4th or 5th seed.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>9) Sacramento Kings</strong> - Following the dominant ROY season from shooting guard Tyreke Evens, the Kings draft another high talent in center DeMarcus Cousins.  Pairing a dominant bigman with a dominant little man has proven to be lethal in the past, so we can expect a bright future coming from this franchise under these two young talents.  Add them with the high scoring power forward Carl Landry, the versatile Donte Greene, and a solid bench including Samuel Dalembert, Jason Thompson, and Francisco Garcia, this team may surprise people.  We still have yet to see how DeMarcus Cousins will adapt to the big leagues, so I’m a little reluctant to go as far as saying they will make the playoffs, though I think it’s definitely a possibility.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>10) Phoenix Suns</strong> - The same team as last year minus Amar’e Stoudemire plus Hedo Turkoglu and Josh Childress.  There are a lot of question marks surrounding how well the perimeter players can be affective without Amar’e, and how well Hedo will fit alongside Nash.  This team may potentially surprise people and snag a playoff spot, but on the flip side could just as easily fail miserably as well.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>11) Golden State Warriors</strong> - After Stephen Curry’s impressive rookie year, Monta Ellis producing All Star caliber numbers, plus the recent additions of all star David Lee and a developing high potential player in Dorell Wright, it’s clear that the talent is there for the Warriors. But unfortunately, offsetting the abilities of the players of this franchise, the coaching is not.  The management needs to put together a better coaching staff before we start to see some real success out of this team.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>12) Memphis Grizzlies</strong> - Despite being two seeds away from the playoffs last season, the management made no effort to improve the team.  The talent is there, particularly in the starting line up.  That isn’t the main problem for the Grizzlies, though.  What this team lacks is a clear defined role for each player.  There are too many scorers and not enough facilitators.  Lots of strong rebounders, but they lack defense collectively.  They should try to trade some players for pieces that fit the Grizzly puzzle.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>13) Los Angeles Clippers</strong> - Blake Griffin returns, but the team looks as sloppy as ever.  Other than the healed rookie, there is very little talent on this squad, and not much of a bench either.  They need to find an upcoming star through the draft to pair with Griffin.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>14) New Orleans Hornets</strong> - There are too many problems within the organization to make much of a playoff run this year, especially involving their best player.  If the organization had a clear focus on a set goal for the franchise, I would expect more, but that doesn’t seem to be there.  Maybe they can finally head in a direction once they trade Chris Paul.<br />
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<strong class='bbc'>15) Minnesota Timberwolves</strong> - Lots and lots of projects.  They are going to spend the season focusing on bringing the inner star out of Michael Beasley and giving Darko Milicic a comfortable role in what may be a break out year by some small chance.  Along the way, they will look to further develop Johnny Flynn and Kevin Love, and their draft pick Wesley Johnson.  Bringing Ricky Rubio back from overseas and gaining another draft pick to strengthen the wing position, and they may be a very scary team down the road.]]></description>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jul 2010 11:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>When MJ and Magic Locked Horns at the Olympics</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'>Quote</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Today, when players are asked who the best player ever is, the politic, self effacing answer is Michael Jordan. But do they really feel that way in their hearts? I doubt it. After all, men like Mikan, Russell, Oscar, Wilt, Baylor, Magic, Kareem, Kobe, Bird and others played the game at the highest level imaginable. They could do things on the court as they wanted, when they wanted. Why would they really feel any player was as good as themselves, let alone better?<br />
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What do they really think when they are alone, out of camera and microphone range? When they can express their true feelings?<br />
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That scenario played out in a most interesting fashion back in 1992 during the Dream Team assault on the Olympics. And it involved two of the greatest players in NBA history-Michael Jordan and Magic Johnson.<br />
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Let me set the milieu for you so we can understand the context of this confrontation and what brought it about:<br />
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At the time of 92 Olympics, the NBA hierarchy was in a state of change. The Magic-Bird era had just ended, the Jordan ascendancy was blossoming. Magic had retired two years ago, involuntarily, because of the HIV virus. He had lost his last finals to Jordan in 90. Being the competitor that he was, no doubt Magic felt that if he could have continued to play, Jerry West would have made a few tweaks the Lakers and he (Magic) would have led them back to the mountaintop, winning more championships and taking his accustomed individual place at the top of NBA totem pole. In fact, Magic still had visions of this; he intended to come back to basketball after the Olympics, a revanchist strategy that would be spiked in no small part due to Dream Team teammate Karl Malone and Phoenix Sun GM Jerry CoAngelo. So at this point, Magic, who though no longer close to the player he was in his prime, still had very formidable skills, was a prideful and disillusioned man, feeling his career had not been fulfilled and ended as it should. He felt circumstance had given Jordan what should still be his. Neither Magic nor anyone else at this time knew just how great Jordan and his bulls would become. At the time of these Olympics, Magic had to feel he was the King in forced exile from his realm.<br />
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Jordan on the other had was rising the sun. He felt that Magic and Bird were the setting sun. He had played long and hard to get where he was and wanted recognition for his accomplishments. The Dream team was seen as a final exposition and good bye tour for the two seminal greats of the NBA: Magic Johnson and Larry Bird. Jordan understood this and did not begrudge the two fading legends as they received the lion’s share of the pre Olympic publicity. But in private, he wanted it understood in no uncertain terms that he was now the king of the league.<br />
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These dynamics came into play in a very intense and interesting series of events that took place during the 92 games.<br />
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One night, during a long conversation, the elephant in the room came alive. The participants where Magic, Jordan, Bird, Barkley, Ewing and erstwhile NFL pro bowl wide receiver Ahmad Rashad.<br />
Bird posed a simple question: Which NBA team was the greatest ever?<br />
Ewing said Russell’s Celtics with their 11 rings. Rashad countered by saying Bird’s 86 team had the greatest front line ever. Barkley agreed saying that that line was “Brutal.” Since he played against it, he should know.<br />
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Jordan replied, “You haven’t seen the greatest team of all time yet. I’m just getting started. I am going to win more championships than any of you guys. Let’s have this conversation after I am done playing.”<br />
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Magic shot back: “You are not winning five championships!”<br />
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Barkley said, “I am going to steal one from you, Michael.”<br />
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Magic became indignant, saying his 87 squad was by far the greatest in history. “Me, Kareem, Worthy, Scott and Coop would have dominated your Bulls.”<br />
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Barkley was about to speak when Bird piped up, “Quiet!! You haven’t won a thing. You have no say in this. Same with Patrick and Ahmad. Your all gone! You guys have no championships so just sit there and be quiet and maybe you will learn some things.” (As an aside, interesting comments from Bird for those who wonder why Lebron wants to win championships so bad)<br />
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At this point, Barkley, ashamed, sulked off. Ewing and Rashad stopped talking. Rashad found this conversation between Jordan, Bird and Magic fascinating and elected to stay as did Ewing.<br />
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Jordan continued to throw support to his Bull teams as the Lakers equals. Bird reminded Jordan that he used to torture Pippen till his back gave out on him the last few years.<br />
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Magic told Jordan he felt sorry for him, not have a great rival like Bird and Magic did with each other. That he had no one to measure himself against.<br />
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The conversation then switched to who was the best one on one player. Jordan immediately became aggressive again. “Give it up. You got no chance on this one. Larry, you don’t have the speed to stay with me. Magic, I can guard you, you can’t guard me. Neither of you guys can play defense like me and you can’t score like me.”<br />
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“I don’t know about that,” retorted Magic. “I could have scored more if I had wanted to. It would have been a good one.”<br />
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Jordan’s face darkened. He had not minded letting Bird and Magic get their media retirement props in the Barcelona circus tour, but in private, he wanted acknowledgement from his peers for what he was: the best in the league.<br />
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“You better give it up,” he told Magic. "I will come in your gym and drop 60 on you. Ask your friend Larry about it. You guys were great players. You did amazing things. But it is over. This is my game now.”<br />
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“Michael, don’t forget, me and Larry turned the NBA around. We ARE the NBA," countered Magic.<br />
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“I have taken it to a new level,“ retorted Jordan. “And it is not your league anymore. It’s mine!”<br />
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"You’re not there yet,” said Magic.<br />
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Bird watched this exchange silently. He detected a swagger in Jordan he had never seen before. He recognized the strain of confidence, bordering on arrogance. It was how he used to feel when he was on top of the basketball world. “There were plenty of years when I knew in my heart I was the best guy in the room,” Bird said, years later. “That night I knew in my heart it wasn’t me anymore. And it wasn’t Magic either.”<br />
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Rashad, a friend to both Magic and Michael tried to soften the ever heating rhetoric. But he could not. The conversation was becoming ugly, bordering on out of control. Jordan wanted concessions from Magic that Johnson would not provide.<br />
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“You time has passed, old man, give it up,” needled Jordan.<br />
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Finally, Bird decided to step in to stop the escalation. “Magic, stop! We had our moment. There was a time when nobody was better than you and me. But not anymore. Michael is the best now. Let’s just pass the torch and be on our way.”<br />
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That conversation was over, but not the competition.<br />
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During scrimmages, Coach Chuck Daly would always have Magic and Michael on different teams. In Magic’s view, he would stock Jordan’s crew with the superior players. He thought Daly was doing this to challenge Magic; to show him that he did not consider his HIV as a factor in his play or a reason to give him mercy or pamper him. Magic rose to the occasion, frequently leading his team to victory over Jordan's. He loved challenges like that and the fact that Daly treated him as just a player, not a sick person.<br />
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Trash talk was long and loud during the scrimmages. But one time, Magic just couldn’t resist taking a dig at Jordan who rose to the bait. During a scrimmage, Magic’s (Drexler, Robinson, Malone, Barkley) team had taken a 14-2 lead over Jordan’s (Bird, Pippen, Ewing, Mullin, Laettner) with a dizzying array of Johnson passes leading to the advantage. As he jogged back up court, Magic detoured past Jordan and said, according to sources either, “You’re getting busted,” or “Hey MJ, you better get with it.”<br />
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Jordan’s fists clinched and his face got dark. He called for the ball, drove to the basket for a dunk. “That good enough for you?” he asked.<br />
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Pippen immediately perked up when he recognized the signs on Jordan’s face and his demeanor.<br />
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“Y’all have done it now!” said Pippen.<br />
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Jordan went on a defensive tear, swarming the west with traps and full court pressure. He jumped passing lanes, knocked down one handed slams, pushed Magic off the block and hit fadeaways. Within minutes, the score was tied and Magic was complaining about no calls. ”It’s like I’m in Chicago stadium," he complained.<br />
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“Welcome to the 90s,” Jordan said cold-bloodedly. Ouch!<br />
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At the end of regulation, the game was tied. But Jordan and Magic would not let it end. “We’re going again!” said Jordan. “No,” replied Coach Daly, worried about injury. He was ignored as the overtime started.<br />
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The over time was brutal, with all the players fighting at the top of their ability to secure the win and the bragging rights. Robinson grinding in the post, Malone and Barkley fighting for boards, Bird hitting parameter shots, Magic controlling the tempo. But it was Jordan with the last word with transcendent play and wizardry that assistant Dave Gavitt would call the most amazing five minutes of basketball he had ever seen. <br />
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I can just imagine what that scrimmage and overtime must have been like. It is true shame for basketball aficionados and fans that a film does not exist of that game. Would any of you want to see that ‘scrimmage’ of Magic vs Michael, populated by teams of all time greats, as much as I would?<br />
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At the end, Jordan and Bird strutted and skipped off the court, gloating shamelessly about the win. Magic left the floor demanding a new officiating crew. “Magic was cursing at the refs, his teammates and his coaches,” Jordan recalled. “He couldn’t stand that we beat them. It was the most fun I have ever had playing basketball.”<br />
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And that’s it. That is a rare, inside look of what really happens, what these truly rare players really feel, when it is just them, devoid of the cameras, the public spotlight, the politic responses; just them, their egos, their careers and their incredible games to back them up. It is what makes them who they are. <br />
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My sources for this post was the GREAT book, When the Game Was Ours by Jackie MacMullan (if you haven’t read this book, you should) and Golden Boys by Cameron Strauth. I simply changed much of the descriptive text to my own words to facilitate the story for this post, give my own ideas on the events and for brevity. I added my own preamble so readers born years later, or too young at the time, would understand the stage these events happened on.</div></div><br />
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Even though the dialogue is clearly cleaned up and probably far-fetched, the overall story is pretty fascinating. It isn't the best written piece ever, but it's just a fan article chronicling events that took place in the 2 books he referenced. Just thought ya'll would enjoy the read.]]></description>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p class='citation'>Quote</p><div class="blockquote"><div class='quote'>Von Wafer has signed a one-year deal with the Celtics, according to sources.<br />
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Wafer also received an offer from the Cavaliers.</div></div><br />
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